EYPS - who wants us?

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EYPS - who wants us?

Postby Fiona173 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:31 pm

As I new EYP thought I would browse the job opportunities in the local area and was saddened to find that the vast majority of positions are still looking for Level 3, some do say or above, or QTS was specified in a couple, I only found one early years position where EYP was mentioned but that wanted QTS as well. Is anyone finding things are different?

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Re: EYPS - who wants us?

Postby hali » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:25 pm

at the moment until the government endorses us jobs will not be available :shock:

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Re: EYPS - who wants us?

Postby AndreaOxfordshire » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:55 pm

I agree. I was recently told that the EYP wasn't really recognised in the nursery sector of the schools because they would prefer someone with PGCE.
It's quite sad really that specialised training in early years is not particularly recognised or wanted.

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Re: EYPS - who wants us?

Postby Babs Morgan » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:52 pm

I agree with both of the previous comments. Having initially signed up to be a graduate leader in 2006 which I completed in 2009 I then found out that the goalpost had moved and the desirable aspiration was to have an EYPS in every settings by 2015. I have to reflect that with hindsight, I should have stuck to my Level 3 as I feel that having a degree in Early Years doesn't put me at any greater advantage as far as employment is concerned and as it's not linked to a teachers salary or working conditions, it hasn't been financially beneficial either.

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Re: EYPS - who wants us?

Postby Bluebell » Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:11 pm

I would agree with Babs that the status has not really been recognised as on a par with qualified teacher status despite both being a level 6.
However for settings that have an EYP they receive more funding per child in the single funding formula,
so you need to ensure your salary also gets a boost!
There has also been opportunities in my area for EYP's to add to their salaries by being a buddy to another setting.
Would I do it again?
Yes as I have been lucky to receive extra salary enhancements.
Be part of an EYP network.
Gain confidence that what I do on a daily basis with the children makes a real difference.
I think if I had stayed at level 4, I would not have reached my full potential, and not been so confident in imparting knowledge to others.

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Re: EYPS - who wants us?

Postby zizi » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:39 pm

I feel we have now been left with a status that is not required by settings or not wanted by maintained settings. We have worked long and hard to gain the status, for no financial reward and with the new EYFS giving no requirement for all staff to be level 3, let alone EYP all the progress in terms of quality provision appears to have been fogotten. I know that EYPs are now supporting local authorities (due to cutbacks in their paid staff) for no reward in addition to their own jobs. I feel very sad :oops: :cry: :cry: :cry: and disappointed in a government that does not recognise the importance of quality in early years!!!!

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Re: EYPS - who wants us?

Postby Bonnie » Sun May 06, 2012 5:03 pm

Hi everyone, I'm new here - only just found the site. :D
Sadly I agree with you all. I have managed an early years setting for the last 5 years and have worked through Foundation degree, EYPS and Hons. All the early years jobs only asking for Level 3. I am now starting on early years graduate teacher course in September as I feel that having QTS is the only way for me to extend my career. I hope to stay in foundation, sadly had to leave my lovely setting to do qts though. :(

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Re: EYPS - who wants us?

Postby hsheldon » Wed May 09, 2012 3:37 pm

I am just finishing my BA Hons in Early Childhood Studies (level 6) My original intention was to gain EYP status, however lack of recognition (and pay) do not reflect the roles and responsibilites af an EYP and I have now reconsidered this.

I have recently read new EYFS which now refers to ' EYP or appropriate level 6 qualification' suggesting reaching EYPS is not high on government agenda. Such a shame, I really cannot believe how much I have learned both personally and professionally and how higher level training has impacted on impoving provision and practice.

What really is annoying is my boss suggesting that I can now carry a higher ratio of children (last faramework this was for eyps and qts) Therefore staff cover not necessary in absences. Do you think I'll be paid any more?....no .....we're certainly not in this career for the money! Wouldnt stop working with preschool children though, I love it!.

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Re: EYPS - who wants us?

Postby Fiona173 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:07 pm

What gloomy reading. Bluebell you are indeed lucky to be a local authority that uses the single funding formula and gives EYPs extra.

The real downside is when another member of staff also trains hard to become level 6, the pre-schools cannot then afford for you both to work together as you become too expensive.

It is all very well Cathy Nutbrown saying that better skills and qualifications are needed but if we continue to be such a low paid sector how are we going to attract people? I know what is needed, a sense of humour and willingness to work many hours for free, well it has worked so far!

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